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101 Improv Games for Children and Adults by Utah Improviser and Quick Wits owner Bob Bedore



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This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Started at Mon Jan 26 10:13:43 2004
can you feel the difference between a scene partner playing for you (or for the scene) VERSUS your scene partner playing for the audience?

when i feel you playing for the audience, i get the feeling that this scene will not be special and i really don't have to be up here on stage with this person. they're not showing me that they need me. i think that's a terrible feeling.

so no matter who i'm playing with, "good" or "bad", "new" or "experienced", "funny" or "not funny", i look at them all the same.

i want them to feel like they are necessary to the scene.
i want them to feel like they could say anything at any moment, and i'll be there to react.
i want to catch every little ounce of non-verbal stuff going on.

and for some reason, a lot of audience members seem to like the outcome of this formula. weird isn't it?

maybe it's just inherently humorous when people are helping each other and trying to make each other look good.


 
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Re: This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Reply #1 Posted at Mon Jan 26 11:25:21 2004
You know what maks a Marriage work, Ryan?

Living for the other person. Thinking of them first. Putting their needs and comfort above your own.
Making sure that they are comfortable and happy.
Regardless of whether or not it's reciprocated.

People may not agree with that, but try and think of a Marriage based on the exact opposites of the things I mentioned.

I think that a good improv scene also depends on these things.

If your not totaly commited to your partner, if you're selfish it just doesn't work.

It's easy to see when people on stage have this dynamic. And it makes what you see more interesting and fascinating.

Using these priciples will always heighten the emotions of the people witnessing it. Making whatever they are witnessing that much more funny.

Maybe that's why Improv is an In the moment, hard to retell experience. Because to fully appreciate it you have to be completly aware with all of your senses.

An audience will always enjoy and appreciate a performance that makes them do that. And a troupe that focuses so deeply on the needs of each other naturally makes that happen.

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Re: This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Reply #2 Posted at Mon Jan 26 13:00:33 2004
To quote Rylocís mantra, it depends.

You need to focus on both. I do the best I can to read the audience. Get a feel for what they like. Each show has a different audience that responds differently to what they see. If you ignore them and put all the attention on your partner and your scene, you may not be too interesting to the audience. In fact, Iíve had some brilliant scene work go completely unrecognized by the audience. I think one of the best scene work scenes I ever did received two 4s and a 3 by the Quick Wits audience. That night they wanted physical humor and puns.

The trick is to keep focus on your scene work and you fellow actors while recognizing what the audience wants. When you and your partner have the same feel for the audience, you shouldnít have a problem creating a hilarious scene.

Of course this goes back to the discussion on how important you think the audience is. Bob has Quick Wits rigged so weíll do whatever it takes to make the audience laugh. It is that important to us. Other troupes may put the audience on a different level.

Either way, thatís my answer. In one hand you have your scene, and in the other the audience. I balance them equally.


 
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Re: This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Reply #3 Posted at Mon Jan 26 13:03:11 2004
ryan i have been thinking this one over and i cant come up with a way of saying i know what you mean. i have always played for the audience AND played with my scene partner.

they go hand in hand. the only way of not doing that is to completely go stupid with your scene but the audience will see that it is senseless humor, and it will piss people off fast(other actors).

sometimes i think that people try and over think what to do on stage. like always trying to give a formula, or some kind of stick by rule, or whatever they got that keeps them playing improv the way they think it should be played. BUT...........

lets not think about it. get on stage, pick a character, play that character in the scene he is in, and let him react just as a person does(PERIOD) if you cheat the character, you cheat the scene. if you cheat the scene, you cheat the character. and if you cheat them, you cheat your partner. and then you have cheated yourself. then spend the hour after the show doubting yourself and what you have just done.(i have seen it)

bottom line i think is to have fun and play honestly. dont short yourself or your partner by not keeping in mind the things that are real in your scene. i think that will always make it look like your playing for the audience AND the other actors.



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Re: This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Reply #4 Posted at Mon Jan 26 13:20:14 2004
i can see it being both easily. i do much better work in front of an audience than in practice. if i don't pla for the audience, how is that possible?

well, i feel them. they help with timing, and they tell you what they think is funny. that certainly fuels my scenework. so yes, i do understand what both of you have said.

i just have heard stories of people catering to audiences. and i don't mean, there's a kid in the audience, keep it clean - that's different.

i'd rather an audience tell their friends about my show or come back to see my show again cos they liked what my team was doing, not because we spoon-fed them what they wanted. does that make sense?

if you keep spoon-feeding an audience into what you think they want, you're not being you on stage. you're not doing it for yourself or your team, you're doing it for the audience. and pretty soon, what happens is that audience all expects to be spoon-fed.

i'd rather not win everyone, i'd rather just win the people that i won.


 
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  Reply #5 Posted at Mon Jan 26 14:40:28 2004
I don't know how NOT to play with my scene partner in mind. Not to say I never fail at supporting or listening, but I think on the whole I do a pretty good job. So I don't know how to do improv while you ignore your partner and just cater to the audience. I do enjoy the audience, especially their energy--if they are laughing and reacting and totally paying attention that gives me energy and makes me want to really give it my all. But I don't know how to cater to them. The reason I am entertaining on stage is because I pay attention to my scene partner and my own character. (Quick side note: you can't be totally unselfish on stage--you have to put some focus on yourself and your character, otherwise you have nothing to give your scene partner.) A lot of the funny stuff I do on stage comes from my character's reactions to my partner and the way my character feels about things--not the one-liners or physical humor. Those things take talent, too, but if that's all the audience wants I can't give it to them.


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Re: This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Reply #6 Posted at Mon Jan 26 14:59:57 2004
The person/people you are creating something with need to be the most important.

Basketball game:

If you are playing a basketball game and you make a pass to one of your team-mates while wondering what your girlfriend/family/crowd thought of it. You aren't giving 100% of yourself to playing the game or to playing with your team.

I want all of my team to be focused on each other and what we are building together.


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Re: This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Reply #7 Posted at Mon Jan 26 15:06:35 2004
Last Modified at Mon Jan 26 15:08:34 2004 by steve uribe

then again austin,

the people didnt come and pay money for you to entertain them personally. they paid money to come watch you play as a team.

improv, they pay to come laugh. so technichally(sp) they are the most important. without them there is no show.

ryan you bring great points to this. and i agree to not spoonfeed them. but give them the illusion of choice. dont give them exactly what they want. give them a choice of two things we want to give them and make them decide. that way they feel like they made a choice at what they laughed at.

i think team is important too, but at the end of the night we should ask each, other as well as the audience if we all had fun and laughed.


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Re: Re: This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Reply #8 Posted at Mon Jan 26 16:51:19 2004

On Mon Jan 26 15:06:35 2004, steve uribe wrote: (read quoted post)
improv, they pay to come laugh.
this is what i mean by cater. if i do a long form scene that's not funny, but really cool, why should that not be entertaining to an audience?

they expect funny. that doesn't mean that's what they should get the whole time.

laughter is just often a result.

if i get the compliment, "wow, you guys worked really well off each other," that's more gratifying than, "you were funny."

but like everyone has said, we're all different. steve, i understand that you want the laughs and do improv for them, but we're all different. i'm just saying that i am not doing improv for that reason, and want to see if anyone was with me...



 
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Re: This Week's 3rd Audience Discussion!  
  Reply #9 Posted at Mon Jan 26 17:35:49 2004
Remember when Alan Alda took over MASH and it got real preachy and dramatic?

It was still funny and entertaining... but it's also fun to see Family Guy make fun of it.

I think I had a point...

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