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Too Competitive?  
  Started at Mon Sep 19 01:55:20 2005
Couple things I wanted to get feedback on from the improv community out there. I'm not one to ask for feedback too much so any help appreciated in idea's and discussion.
A couple show idea's and if you read this and initiate it because of this then please invite me so I can see if it was successful. The idea's.
As some know I am attending Weber State now and having a great time and very successful thus far do to I must say my experience in improv (a HUGE thanks to Bob Bedore who taught me back in my teen days). I'm trying to set up on improv "Team" I want to call it for now it can be a "Troupe" which a friend Kaitlyn has already initiated and doing the organization. I had a thought which I'm sure someone else already has thought of but I really want to push for is start making this a college competition.
Instead of for example a fun competition for the sake of the show like Half Wits vs. the Dim Wits it really gets competitive with Improv experienced non participating Judges to rally points, and the audience favorites give points as well. I know Utah State started up an Improv group, I know some people are interested in U of U, and I'm pretty sure some Improvists from Comedy Sports in provo go to the colleges there.
Start it off in Utah, and if its really becomes successful and profitable to the colleges it becomes an inter-state competition.
I remember the improv competition between troupes up at Utah State in Logan was HUGE in crowd size, and even some troupes from out of state attended.
I think that would inspire the colleges to allow regular shows at the theater and the regular shows are like a reality TV show where during the next 16 shows YOU the audience will decide who represents your favorite college to compete in the State tournament and hopefully qualify for the National's.
I see a lot of Pro's and Con's to this. Pro's being massive exposure of improv to Utah, and if most colleges are like Weber State, actually having to ATTEND that college to be on the team is not a requirment for club organizations, which can help assure the quality of the comedy and/or improv. Also, with "Wild and Out" on this is a great time for a push in improv advertisement and make comedy improv a Fad in utah. I know some don't like wild and out but dangit, its already becoming Fashionable to kids just because its on MTV.
Con.... Is being Actually competitive a good thing? I think it can be harmful if done as a regular thing where if your team does not win every show you are out, is a bad thing because then you will only see the same "premium" games every show, but I believe if you limit so that they have 16 (random number) local shows to play a variety of games to qualify then one big show- that big show of college competition should be that place where you pull out all the show stoppers, to give it that play-off feel.
I already know that its a go at Weber State to put on improv shows. The activity director of the school told Kaitlyn that if there Ever is an improv team to tell her and she will schedule a show and more based on the quality. So the question is, good or bad idea.
I know its a novel, and apologize about the grammar and spelling, didn't really review it just wanted to get some reactions and see what the improv community thought, good or bad to hammer out the details. Let me hear it, please.



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Re: Too Competitive?  
  Reply #1 Posted at Mon Sep 19 10:49:28 2005
If you're asking "Can it work?" The answer is a definite yes. ComedySportz is probably the most well known organization for holding large scale multiple organization improv competitions:

http://www.comedysportz.com/naevents.htm

I believe Theatresports has also done similar events in the past, although I can't find any information on that subject at the moment. You can try looking at:

http://www.theatresports.org/

And, of course, keep in mind that both of those organizations primarily specialize in short form improv. However, the long form "Cage Match" movement has picked up steam at the UCB and IO theatres:

http://www.cage-match.com/
http://www.iowest.com/shows/cagematch

Ryan Locante has also produced a series of local "Trolley Brawl" shows which were similar:

http://www.trolleybrawl.com/

Now, on the other hand, if you're asking "Is it a good idea?" That's where things get murky....

If you do it, I'm sure you're gonna get plenty of people that bitch and moan that "It's not about who does the best work, but about who can bring the most friends to cheer for them," or "The audience is always gonna choose the cheap, fast laffs over the grounded, invested, intelligent scenes." But, f*ck 'em. If you wanna do it, and you can get other people that wanna do it, just do it.

Just make sure you do it well. wink


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Re: Too Competitive?  
  Reply #2 Posted at Mon Sep 19 11:25:58 2005
If you are competing to have fun and make connections with other college improvisers, great. If you are competing to prove who is best, this seldom works in improv.

I'd suggest checking out Theatresports for competitive connections in the improv world (I *think* they do college, might just be high scool) or if you want to unite with other college troupes, check out Implosion Improv.

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Re: Too Competitive?  
  Reply #3 Posted at Tue Sep 20 14:15:16 2005
You already know I support this idea, since it was mutually initiated. I think it would be awesome if we could let enough people know.


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  Reply #4 Posted at Tue Sep 20 15:55:27 2005
Whoop Whoop for Implosion!

If you do decide to hook up with them let me know. I can set you up with the founders of it. I highly recommend getting involved with that improv network.

A lot of the functions are right in my neck of the woods, we could hang.

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Re: Too Competitive?  
  Reply #5 Posted at Wed Sep 21 14:53:26 2005
Howdy...

Actually I love the competition side of things and would love to see a college -- and also a High School tournament.

It can be done fairly easily as long as you have the troupes willing to go into it. I would use a good panel of judges so it's not just a "who brought the most people" type of thing.

Basically there are a lot of ways that it can be done and I would just put together a panel of people to work out the rules and act as the judges.

I love performing in styles like this because it keeps my sharper. Just hanging out on your own stage can get a little stale after a while. Even doing shows with other troupes doesn't get the blood flowing as much as thinking that you've really got to stretch yourself.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help get this put together.

Take care and I'm glad to see that you're still out there improving!!!

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Re: Too Competitive?  
  Reply #6 Posted at Sun Sep 25 16:26:25 2005
Hey Bob! I'll be calling you about this if you don't mind.


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  Reply #7 Posted at Sun Sep 25 16:39:44 2005
High School Tournament you say? That would be fun...


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  Reply #8 Posted at Fri Nov 11 02:27:28 2005
I hope the high schools are ready for death... damn imporvisational drama!

 
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  Reply #9 Posted at Tue Nov 15 14:23:30 2005
Drama? What high school are you talking about?


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